Church and Main

Clergy Leadership and the Propensity to Mess* Things Up with Scott Benhase | Episode 221

In this episode, I have a meaningful discussion with Scott Benhase, the former Episcopal Bishop of Georgia, where we delve into his perspectives on pastoral leadership as outlined in his book, Done and Left Undone: Grace in the Meantime of Ministry. We examine how the role of clergy is changing in response to modern challenges, highlighting the importance of grace, community, and our shared human imperfections. Scott shares insights from his own experiences in various ministry contexts, encouraging a transition from a 'fix-it' approach to one that emphasizes walking alongside individuals in their spiritual journeys. We touch on the pressures that pastors face, the significance of foundational spiritual practices, and the necessity of recognizing our shortcomings in a society that often expects perfection. Additionally, Scott offers guidance for new pastors, stressing the value of spiritual discipline and genuine relationships with their congregations. This conversation underscores the essential role of grace in ministry and the unique joys and challenges that come with leading a faith community.

 

* British author Francis Spufford describes sin as the human propensity to fuck things up.

 

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Why You Should Pray for President Trump (Even If You Don't Like Him) | Episode 220

In this episode, I dive into the tricky connection between faith and politics, especially with Donald Trump making a comeback as president. I talk about the often awkward but necessary act of praying for leaders we might not agree with, stressing that it can be a significant spiritual duty. Drawing from my essay, “Why We Should Pray for President Trump, Even If We Don't Like Him,” I point out how important it is to approach our prayers with humility and grace. 

 

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Polarization and the Campaign for Kindness with Cathy Bien | Episode 219

In this episode of Church and Main, I explore the intersection of faith, politics, and culture after President Trump's inauguration, focusing on the critical role the church can play in bridging societal divides. I speak with Cathy Bien, leader of the Campaign for Kindness at the Church of the Resurrection in Leawood, Kansas, about this grassroots initiative to foster understanding during a time of polarization.

Links:

Campaign for Kindness webpage

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Talking About Success and Failure in the Church with Martha Tartarnic | Episode 218

In this episode, I speak with Martha Tatarnik, a priest at St. George's Anglican Church and co-host of the Future Christian podcast. We explore the challenges of discussing success and failure in church leadership, drawing from Martha's 2023 article, "It's Hard to Talk About Success in the Church." She shares her experiences in a downtown community grappling with societal issues, emphasizing the importance of humility and community narratives over individual accomplishments. We also discuss the need for meaningful connections in faith communities and how grace underpins both successes and setbacks in ministry.

Links:

Martha Tartarnic's Website

Political Roundtable Episode of Future Christian

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Why Jimmy Carter's Legacy Matters with Andrew Donaldson | Episode 217

In this episode, I discuss early 2025 events with Andrew Donaldson, starting with the terrorist attack in New Orleans. We reflect on Jimmy Carter’s legacy, analyzing his faith-driven leadership amidst today's polarization and conservative evangelicalism. Our conversation transitions to the media's portrayal of crises, emphasizing sensationalism's dangers and local journalism's decline.
We examine the political implications of Trump’s potential return, highlighting the challenges for authentic journalism in a divisive climate. Finally, we explore the relationship between faith and politics, considering the evolution of the church and its impact on political values, while drawing lessons from history that resonate with our current landscape.

Show Notes:

Andrew's Substack

 

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The Importance of Showing Up with Jim Mohr | Episode 216

 I sit down with Jim Moore, an experienced Presbyterian pastor and current college chaplain at Westminster College, to discuss the profound impact of simply showing up in the lives of others. Jim shares insights from his journey in ministry, highlighting the unique challenges and opportunities of campus life. We focus on his article, "Just Show Up," and explore how genuine connection and presence are crucial for fostering community. Jim recounts impactful moments from his time at Westminster, emphasizing the importance of being there for students in times of crisis and joy alike. We also consider the evolving dynamics of campus ministry and the necessity of engaging with diverse student populations. This conversation invites listeners to reflect on the transformative power of presence in both faith and everyday life, encouraging a deeper appreciation for authentic connections.

Show Links:

Just Show Up by Jim Mohr

What I Learned from My Mother by Julia Kasdorf

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Brian Thompson is a Sinner of Christ's Redeeming | Episode 215

In this solo episode (and last for 2024), I analyze the tragic murder of Brian Thompson, former CEO of UnitedHealthcare, through a moral lens. This discussion leads to a broader critique of societal responses to violence and the need for humility and understanding in healthcare discourse and other issues.
I conclude with a call for moral education and empathy in our communities as we navigate complex issues.

Brian Thompson: A Sinner of Christ's Redeeming (a substack article on which this episode is based)

 

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The Culture War, the Working Class and Donald Trump with Luke Allen | Episode 214

 I speak with Luke Allen, lead organizer for Michigan Faith in Action, about the intersection of faith, community organizing, and cultural change after recent elections. Luke shares his journey from rural roots to urban organizing, highlighting shared struggles among diverse groups in the working class.
We discuss the importance of building relationships, particularly with faith leaders, to foster trust and collaboration on issues like affordable housing and internet access. Luke also emphasizes the need for empathy in understanding political affiliations, advocating against oversimplified narratives.

What Culture War? by Luke Allen

 

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