Church and Main
Church and Main is a podcast at the intersection of faith and modern life. Join Pastor Dennis Sanders as he shares the stories of faith interacting with the ever-changing world of the 21st century.
Church and Main is a podcast at the intersection of faith and modern life. Join Pastor Dennis Sanders as he shares the stories of faith interacting with the ever-changing world of the 21st century.
Episodes

Friday Mar 20, 2026
Friday Mar 20, 2026
In part two of his conversation with Lutheran Pastor Rob Maialis, host Dennis Sanders turns the lens toward the youngest generation entering adulthood. Is there a genuine religious revival happening among Gen Z, or are we measuring the wrong things?
Together, they explore what it might look like for mainline churches to truly meet Gen Z rather than simply wait for them, and how an unlikely partnership between the oldest and youngest generations in the pew might be exactly what both groups need.
Shownotes:
Gen Z's Religious Revival Likely Escapes Notice (Rob's Article)
Lectionary Greek Blog
Related Episode:
The Church and the Three-Quarter Life Crisis with Rob Myallis | Episode 273
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Saturday Mar 14, 2026
The Church and the Three-Quarter Life Crisis with Rob Myallis | Episode 273
Saturday Mar 14, 2026
Saturday Mar 14, 2026
What happens when the people who built your church — the ones who carried it through lean years, chaired every committee, and showed up faithfully for decades — start to feel like the ladder has been taken away from them? In this episode, I welcome back Lutheran pastor and Rob Myallis to explore what Rob calls the "three-quarter life crisis": the profound emotional, physical, and spiritual transition many people face in their mid-to-late seventies.
Shownotes:
The Three-Quarter Life Crisis (Rob's Article)
Lectionary Greek Blog
Related Episode:
Luther Seminary and the Future of Mainline Protestantism with Rob Myallis | Episode 239
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Friday Mar 06, 2026
Friday Mar 06, 2026
When the Department of Homeland Security launched Operation PARRIS in January 2026, thousands of legal refugees in Minnesota suddenly found themselves targets of ICE arrests and detention — despite having followed every rule required of them. In this episode, I sit down with Emily Belz, senior staff writer at Christianity Today, to unpack how this shocking crackdown unfolded and how faith communities responded.
Shownotes:
Emily Belz- Refugees Disappeared. Churches Prayed and Lawyered Up.
Emily Belz- Excerpts from a Judge’s Ruling in Favor of Minnesota Refugees
Arrive Ministries Facebook Page
Related Episodes:
A Theology of Protest with David Swanson
Why Minneapolis Needs Potlucks with Rachel Pieh Jones
Renee Good and Minnesota ICE with Eric Elkin
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Friday Feb 27, 2026
A Theology of Protest with David Swanson | Episode 271
Friday Feb 27, 2026
Friday Feb 27, 2026
In this conversation, David Swanson discusses his experiences as a pastor in Bronzeville, Chicago, and the role of protest within the Christian faith. He reflects on the importance of community engagement, the theological underpinnings of protest, and the connections between spiritual practices and activism. Swanson emphasizes the need for lament in protest, the significance of bearing witness, and offers guidance for those new to activism. He encourages Christians to participate in protests as an expression of their faith and to recognize the historical context of protest within Christianity.
Suggested Reading and Listening:
🌐David Swanson’s website
📝A Christian Theology of Protest: Bearing Faithful Witness in a Time of Unrest
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Friday Feb 20, 2026
Friday Feb 20, 2026
I speak with Wes Granberg-Michelson about the essential link between spirituality and social justice in today's political climate, looking at the urgency for faith communities to act while remaining grounded in spiritual practices. Drawing from his book, "The Soul Work of Justice", Wes advocates for integrating deep prayer and reflection into our pursuit of justice, ultimately calling for a renewed approach that prioritizes faith and love in addressing societal challenges.
The Soulwork of Justice
Wes Granberg-Michaelson's website
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Friday Feb 13, 2026
Friday Feb 13, 2026
I engage with Pastor Anthony Robinson to discuss the contentious label of fascism in relation to Donald Trump's political rise. We look at Jonathan Rauch's essay, "Yes, It's Fascism," and explore the implications of such labels for American democracy. Robinson shares his evolving perspective, while I highlight the complexities of terminology and its potential to divide.
Suggested Reading and Listening:
Yes, It’s Fascism
I Was Wrong
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Friday Feb 06, 2026
Why Minneapolis Needs Potlucks with Rachel Pieh Jones | Episode 268
Friday Feb 06, 2026
Friday Feb 06, 2026
Rachel Pieh Jones joins to talk about the importance of potlucks in Minneapolis during a time of division. Drawing from her experiences in Djibouti and Somaliland, Rachel discusses how communal meals can bridge diverse communities and foster empathy, particularly amid the challenges faced by immigrant populations.
Why Minneapolis Needs Potlucks Now
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Friday Jan 30, 2026
Character Matters in Politics with Matt Lewis | Episode 267
Friday Jan 30, 2026
Friday Jan 30, 2026
Political commentator Matt Lewis joins the podcast to talk about the shifting relationship between character and politics from the 1990s to the present. We examine how character dynamics during the Bill Clinton era contrast with current debates surrounding Donald Trump. Matt shares personal insights from his background while reflecting on the moral dilemmas faced by Republicans and the implications for the evangelical community.
Matt Lewis' website
Character Is Destiny article
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Friday Jan 23, 2026
Can AI Help or Hinder Human Flourishing? with Paul Hoffman | Episode 266
Friday Jan 23, 2026
Friday Jan 23, 2026
Dr. Paul Hoffman speaks about the intersection of faith and technology, especially artificial intelligence (AI). Dr. Hoffman discusses his recent book, "AI Shepherds and Electric Sheep," exploring how AI can both aid and hinder human flourishing from a theological perspective. We look at the implications of AI on community, embodiment, and the church's role in navigating these challenges.
AI Shepherds and Electric Sheep
Paul Hoffman Bio
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Friday Jan 16, 2026
Friday Jan 16, 2026
Lane Davis, an ordained minister and assistant professor of Church History, unpacks his insightful article, "How the Religious Left Ceded Power to the Religious Right." We explore Lane's journey from pastoral ministry to academia and discuss the historical decline of liberal Christianity's political influence. Lane reflects on pivotal moments, such as Pete Buttigieg’s candidacy, and critiques the assertion of a liberal Christianity resurgence under Biden. We analyze the historical dominance of mainline Protestantism, the rise of evangelical conservatism, and the existential crisis facing liberal churches today.
How the Religious Left Ceded Political Power to the Religious Right
America’s Vanishing Church
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